The Da Vinci Code - How the Bible came to be - John Van Sloten

January 07, 2007

View Related

audio mp3
Media @ New Hope CalgaryToday we begin a series of messages looking at The Da Vinci Code. This morning’s message will focus on how the Bible came to be.

“Jesus Christ was a historical figure of staggering influence, perhaps the most enigmatic and inspirational leader the world has ever seen… His life was recorded by thousands of followers across the land… more than eighty gospels were considered for the New Testament, and yet only a relative few were chosen for inclusion – Matthew, Mark, Luke and John among them. ‘Who chose which gospels to include?,’ Sophie asked. ‘Aha!’ Teabing burst in with enthusiasm. ‘The fundamental irony of Christianity! The bible as we know it today, was collated by the pagan Roman Emperor Constantine the Great ”
Professor Teabing To Sophie Neveu in the Da Vinci Code, page 231

“Everything you need to know about the Bible can be summed up by the great canon doctor Martyn Percy.’ Teabing cleared his throat and declared, ‘The Bible did not arrive by fax from heaven.’ ‘I beg your pardon?’ [replied Sophie] The Bible is a product of man, my dear. Not of God. The Bible did not fall magically from the clouds.”
Professor Teabing To Sophie Neveu in the Da Vinci Code, page 231

“Every part of Scripture is God-breathed and useful one way or another—showing us truth, exposing our rebellion, correcting our mistakes, training us to live God's way. Through the Word we are put together and shaped up for the tasks God has for us.”
The Apostle Paul in 2 Timothy 3:16-17, MSG
(Yeah, this is a circular argument!)






3 Comments


submitreply/new comment

September 15, 2012
You asked,Are you implying there was no hstiorical Jesus?Jesus exists before History. Because he understood that he was the same I am¯ that exists in all things before time.You are the same I am“ everything is that ¯Why does evolution stop at the monkey, the fish, the Icthys, the algae, the bacteria, the single celled organism, the zygote ?Where does the Universe come from ?What does the best Science tell us ?From a single point? “ A Quark ? A fermion ? A Higgs Boson, something smaller ?Infinitly smaller“ that means that we have all evolved from that ¯We are all made of the same stuff. Carl Sagan called it Star Stuff“ and he was correct,Einstein was Correct.Baruch Spinoza was Correct.Yahshua (Esse) of Nazareth was Correct.The Essenes, the Nazarenes were Correct.Parable ? Yes .Mythology ? YesFiction ? YesQuantum Physics ? YesTruth ? What is Truth ?

Link to original



February 25, 2012
This is very enlightening. A breath of fresh inspiration in a very dry time. Thank you for sharing this with us. God bless you richly.

aerycksmusic
Link to original



January 09, 2007
Neil,
Got your note… thanks for taking the time to comment.

One of the oddest things that I realized about Sunday was the fact that I preached on the makeup of the bible without ever quoting from the Bible. Ironic?

At first thought so, but then realized that using the bible to prove itself is a very untenable and circular argument (quoting the bible to prove the bible). So, against all urges to the contrary, I left the message the way it was. Next two in the series will be different though.

Your point on the ‘meaningfulness’ of scripture’s truths is a good one. I did mention this idea on Sunday when I spoke of the fact that we just, “Know that we know that we know” (by faith) that it’s true. The scriptures you cite fit in directly with that concept.

Hey, thanks again for the comment and have a great week,

john


Link to original



January 08, 2007
Message: The DA VINCI CODE
I personally would have like to have heard some additional points/comments in this sermon. My suggestions.
First, the verses in 2 Peter 1:20,21. "Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet's own interpretation. For prophecy never had its origin in the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit." (NIV)
or
The main thing to keep in mind here is that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of private opinion. And why? Because it's not something concocted in the human heart. Prophecy resulted when the Holy Spirit prompted men and women to speak God's Word. (The Message)

My thoughts are that God(the Holy Spirit)worked through the emotions, thoughs, experiences and the very heart of the person that wrote the Scriptures.

For example, Jeremiah, the weeping prophet was pleading for the tribe of Israel to turn away from their sin and return to right living as required by God. Is it not really a loving Father, God speaking to these people through this faithful man?

Also, the Apostle Peter experienced the anguish of denying that he knew Christ. Followed by Jesus reinstating Peter in John 21:15-17. This experience later enables Peter to write, "And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast." 1 Peter 5:10 (NIV)
or
So keep a firm grip on the faith. The suffering won't last forever. It won't be long before this generous God who has great plans for us in Christ--eternal and glorious plans they are!--will have you put together and on your feet for good. (The Message)

I would have liked to have heard them because they have value to me, Spiritual value. That in part is a reason of why some books made it into the Old Testament. Jewish people agreed that Yahweh speaks through thess writings. And still does today.

Similarities of the Gospels is partially a result of oral tradition. The learning and passing on of history/stories by memorizing them verbatim. A cultural practice of the time.

Why do I write this? I feel strongly about it. It's not intended to judge criticise but to comment. It must be incredible difficult to sift throught all the material and form a sermon.

It has been good to read these Scriptures again. They instruct me, give me hope and remind me of who's in control. I need to hear it. It has also been good for me to struggle through this e-mail. It brings clarity.
Shalom
Praying for you, Pastor John.

Neil Reynolds
Link to original



Copyright Info:

Sony Pictures 2006
more info...


Keywords:

2Timothy 3:16-17,movies

Length: 34:11     Rating: PG     Audio Downloads: 1,730